How much Plot with your Porn?

I’m attracted to people, not bodies. That’s why I don’t personally enjoy robot stories or stories where the person becomes just a body. I’m not turned on by most kinks. In fact, the more someone is aware of his attraction or does anything too artificial (bodybuilding, etc…) the less I am turned on. I need to know the man to be attracted to him and be turned on if hypnotized. So the plot in my stories is to flesh out the people in it. There needs to be a delicate balance to have sex scenes regularly of course, but I do enjoy having story elements that are not related directly to the sex, it gives more depth to the characters. I would enjoy greatly, for example, if movies or episodes of series had about 20% of hypno porn scenes.

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So that raises a point I hadn’t considered with this, in the sense of “how much of my plot is porn?”

I hadn’t really thought about it from the point of a (kinkless is the wrong word, kink-pure?) view.

For me, if a story is posted in which say, a sports team is convinced by their new coach that their new uniforms were a selection of skimpy jocks and harnesses, and they spent the story parading their bodies around in them, even if not a single one of their holes gets so much as tickled, to me that would be porn.

Similarly I expect many people here would enjoy a story about a gymbro succumbing to a rubber parasite, or a man finding his muscles stolen as his body is turned into a hairless twink, just as engaging and erotic.

It somewhat depends on what is defined as porn. Sex only? Or does the line blur when kinks come in to play.

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I think this is a great question to take into consideration. :slight_smile: Porn definitely has subjectivity to it, especially when you’re asking how important it is to your reading preferences- For your examples, some people really might not find jocks and harnesses particularly erotic and would just read it as a silly story. Someone else might find literally just the idea of their new coach convincing them to do this, without it ever even being outright done in the story, literally so hot they can’t even finish the chapter. I’ve certainly been in both situations on just this site alone.

I think the context of it being on this site is going to heavily effect someone’s opinions on if it’s porn or not, though- a story where a kid gets magical fairies that he uses to abuse and harass his horrible bully and put them in compromising situations could totally be considered porn by someone if it was posted on here, but also it’s literally something that happened multiple times in The Fairly Odd Parents and no one is out here calling that porn.

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In my case, I’m using porn in a very broad sense, like anything that is designed to excite the reader sexually. And plot would be the rest of the story. Porn is the stuff that would prevent your story from being published as a non-erotic short story, even this sports team parade would be considered titillating. Of course, you can find lots of things that are sexually exciting in “typical” short stories, but it is not usually the main design goal. Of course, this is all vague and subjective.

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Which in this case is a very fair definition. It does, however, make the original question a little difficult to answer, but that was always going to be the case. In that, how much plot with porn differs from person to person not just from personal taste about it, but also the classification of parts of the story as one or the other, or both.

No plot = no interest. Action can only hold your interest for so long.

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I love the slow burn, and you can’t do a slow burn story without a lot of plot. With erotica, I want the arousal to at least be simmering everywhere, but it doesn’t have to be front and center. And some of my favorite stories on GSS are the ones that have a lot of plot written well, so I guess I’m very happy with it.

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For me, there needs to be a certain amount of plot. Mostly it needs to be set where you can put yourself into a character. That projection into the character should have at least enough indication of emotion and mental framework they are in. The details of the bodies help to create the mental image and flesh out the scene itself. In porn stories 99% is in your head and what is in your hand…more than that tends to make it difficult to read. Just mental images of their bodies or even the room/scene is not enough, it becomes a flat photograph. The addition of backstory and sharing of mindset like the widening of eyes or other facial expressions to internal dialogue or descriptions brings it to life.