I’m sure it is different buddy . It but takes a long time and can be very hard to make it do what you want lol . The thing I use is just a box to type in what happens next and a box where the story is . I have to write the whole story near enough before it ever touches the AI boxes and when I do enter into what happens next, I can’t just put it in a box whole, cos it will go off Into its own thing after a few sentences given half a chance , so I actually have to put it in a few sentences in at a time , and even then to make recognise and and stay true to my voice I have to manually type the beginning of what I put in the what happens next box to keep it on track , then it just adds its own typical AI embellishments. But when once I’ve gone through all that that’s just the first draft . There maybe parts I wanna change from third person to 1st person or bits that needs to be rearranged if it gets confused like when people are dressed or undressed lol 
it some ways it’s a fun process , and I’m learning all the time . I will never forget stark contract gate when the word turned up a dozen times in a chapter and I hadn’t realised , so I searched for new ways to say it and the AI stopped using it as much . Maybe even my raw writing before the AI stage is improving who knows
No one doubted that.
I can put a screw into a wooden plank by hand, using a simple screwdriver or a battery-powered drill. The result is the same.
I don’t want to say that stories written with AI involved are generally on the same level as those without AI. What I’m saying is that the way someone creates something is not subject to judgment, especially if it’s offered for free for the sole purpose of giving the reader pleasure.
Judging people for how they’ve created the stuff they offer to us for free for our pleasure is nothing but pure hypocrisy. We can judge the quality of the story itself, we can like or dislike it, but it’s not our right to be contemptuous of how it was created.
I don’t know why it tickled me but was just thinking about the comment where someone mentioned AI’s use of the senses . It made me think about when it adds to dialog, it loves to put what a character’s breath smells like when they talk to each other nearly every time lol … like this character said this and the other character could smell that their breath was like shit …. I’m sure it is vital to the reading experience I think once it said that the characters breath smelled of determination….. really ? Lol
It sounds like things won’t be forced to be tagged if they don’t feel like it, so I probably don’t feel like risking reading something written by AI. Sure, the stories are free and that’s all well and good. But I’m spending my time too, and if I read something and then the author goes “oops silly me, I got you! I didn’t even write this!” I’m not gonna call them rude, I’m leaving and probably not coming back. So if this new stance stays, I’m not. Best of luck, seriously.
Good luck finding a guaranteed AI free zone.
Since we will ban fully AI stories, it would be more likely to be: “I got you! I didn’t write this the way you thought I did!” but I don’t know how you would come to know for certain. You’re as much dependent on the authors as we are for knowing the 100% actual truth. The time you spend reading is mostly for your own benefit, is it not? I’m not sure I understand how much you think withdrawing it has an impact on the author or the site, how much they would lose because you, what, don’t read the story?
But you seem pretty determined about this, so I recommend https://www.literotica.com/ I heard they have a stricter stance on AI. I mean, it can only be as good as the detectors they use, and those are unreliable at best and can be fooled. If you really want to be absolutely certain, you can read stories here or elsewhere from before 2023, those should be safe. Using the Wayback Machine can help too. But all in all, the absolute no risk method would be abstinence. Best of luck to you too!
Nice knowing you sort of….
Some of these comments sure are coming off as holier than thou. Do you all suck dick or like yours played with? Get off the horses and realize we’re all here. Coincidentally, I literally just finished watching a program I had DVR’d 8/28/2025. It led into the news. You know what was one of the headlines? Indiana University “rolling out ChatGPT EDU to all students faculty and staff. It is the 2nd largest ChatGPT EDU deployment ever for OpenAI….The University says it will help prepare graduates for an AI-driven workforce.” That supports my point about younger people finding a site like this are likely going to be writing with AI. Do some of you really want your own exclusive site that is unwelcoming to the community and to those individuals who would like to contribute and whose education involved writing with AI? Seriously, if you want a tag saying your writing is special… ask for it. That would be better than branding the ones you don’t like. – It isn’t my site. But, I’m thinking if you really don’t want to even RISK seeing something that might have AI, maybe you’re right and you shouldn’t be here. I don’t know where else you will go that you can believe is better; but, you’ll find it until you decide that isn’t good enough either.
I don’t like reading a story and then having the bait & switch of “if you want to read more, come to my patreon and pay for it”. In my opinion, that shouldn’t be on this site either. There are sites for pay and writing to make money. These sites didn’t start that way. If someone wanted a writer to write something specific for them, they commissioned it, yes. But, I would challenge that supposedly somehow an author writing at the end “Ha ha, joke’s on you, this wasn’t even written by me” is very similar to…”if you want to read more of this, fork over some cash”.
I think beating up on people who write with AI has had its stage enough and as someone who writes both ways, and by virtue of that, can see both sides and personally knows the effort of both sides… it’s been said politely, but after several “I don’t even want to risk touching it” type comments (perhaps having survived the 80s and 90s HIV/AIDS and that sort of shitty judgmental crap, enough is enough)— There doesn’t seem to be much recognition at all of the effort that does go into working with AIs even though a few people have tried to put that out there. That sort of dismissal or the patronizing “yes but it still isn’t the same” comments suggests to me that for those individuals, there is nothing they will hear except their own view. That is the only answer for them.
That would be sad. The only way sites like this have survived is to remain agile, adaptable, and open to all those willing to be part of the community and contribute to it. We just had Thanksgiving… and again, this isn’t my site. But let me take literary license here and say, if this was the home where dinner was and someone showed up with store bought pies while someone else “slaved in the kitchen” to make their very special and famous dessert….First, it sure would seem rude to tell the person with the pies, “I’m sorry, home made only here. Bye.” Or, you can put that on the other table and we are going to label it “cheater…lazy…not worth being touched”. How does that strike you? – Or that relative who can’t stop critiquing everyone else’s stuff and pointing out what was wrong with it and why it isn’t good enough, while constantly extolling their own efforts and how many places their dish has been shared or awarded or whatever. Pretty soon, everyone gets tired of that…even if they eat some of the dessert. But no matter, that relative doesn’t care because they know for certain their stuff is better than any of the rest of the “slop” anybody else ever brings to the table.
Now take a moment please and look at what the heck some of these comments have looked like… no matter to whom they have been aimed… AI users, non-AI users, moderators, owners, readers, etc. **I apologize if this offended anyone. But, you know, with art…I have heard it probably isn’t art if it didn’t offend anyone. And if I had used AI, it might have been said much nicer (at least the one at work always makes nicey nice out of comments). But, THIS… this is what real HUMAN humanity looks and sounds like…especially when World AIDS Day was no longer recognized in my country (USA) and this whole thing sure is getting reminiscent of some of the BS that divided all of us up until a disease killing all of us brought us together. Maybe some more being thankful for what we have and can enjoy together isn’t a bad idea, and a little less “my way or the highway”…or just hit the road and let people who enjoy the content and the creators (however they do it) enjoy being here.
We just had Thanksgiving… and again, this isn’t my site. But let me take literary license here and say, if this was the home where dinner was and someone showed up with store bought pies while someone else “slaved in the kitchen” to make their very special and famous dessert….First, it sure would seem rude to tell the person with the pies, “I’m sorry, home made only here. Bye.” Or, you can put that on the other table and we are going to label it “cheater…lazy…not worth being touched”. How does that strike you? – Or that relative who can’t stop critiquing everyone else’s stuff and pointing out what was wrong with it and why it isn’t good enough, while constantly extolling their own efforts and how many places their dish has been shared or awarded or whatever. Pretty soon, everyone gets tired of that…even if they eat some of the dessert. But no matter, that relative doesn’t care because they know for certain their stuff is better than any of the rest of the “slop” anybody else ever brings to the table.
I mean, anyone can make a metaphor… like imagine this was the home where dinner was and someone showed up with a bunch of pies, but instead of sugar/flour/butter/fruit, they used a new kind of nutrient sludge they had at the store that chemically replaces all of the ingredients so it doesn’t require baking. It looks like normal pie, and it tastes kinda like it too, but it also kinda tastes like plastic and you’ve heard that the nutrient sludge is unethically sourced and really bad for the environment, so you’re like “hey I don’t wanna eat sludge, could we just make sure to keep the sludge stuff separate?” And then suddenly a bunch of people are calling you rude and saying that that how the pie got made is none of your business and they worked hard mixing all of that sludge together to turn it into a pie and you should just be grateful that someone brought pie (even though you didn’t ask for this pie and don’t want it because a bunch of people were already bringing perfectly good pie with no sludge) and that maybe if you tried the sludge pie, you’d like it, and soon sludge is just going to be normal so you should get used to it.
But both sides of this debate seem to have a chip on their shoulder about their way of doing things so I don’t think we’ll ever truly see eye to eye, the differences in our positions are just too incompatible. It’s funny that this thread has gotten so heated because I don’t even think the site really has a “problem” at the moment, either with the content or the rules, but I’ve been enjoying reading the discussion. It’s very, very interesting indeed…
Guys, remember, this decision hasn’t been made to take any side in this debate. I can understand both sides, and I’d love to accommodate both.
But it’s simply not possible.
You need to understand that there is just no way to detect AI-written content reliably. Meaning without missing any AI-created material, and even worse, with no risk of mislabeling human-written content as being AI-assisted.
This fact alone makes it an absolute no-no to force such a label and base any kind of selection for what we allow on the site on such circumstantial criteria.
The crowd that wants us to ban, or at least mark, all AI-created content keeps ignoring this. And that, of all the things, angers me the most.
As far as I can tell, the two different AI tags are being replaced with a single one that applies more broadly. That makes little difference to me, I had them both filtered anyway. As long as there is some kind of tag that can be filtered out, and an effort is being made to catch those that are refusing to use it, without applying it so broadly as to render it meaningless.
That’s a hard line to walk, I know, but its important to try. The idea Gen AI is inevitable and “genie can’t go back in the bottle” is a line fed to us by the companies pushing it. No one has to allow it to happen, and spaces can be protected against it. Companies like Deezer are doing exactly that, while other streamers have let the slop flow.
It’s worth noting that GSS is actually making an effort to screen and label these, and I appreciate that. It’s more than can be said for other erotica sites I visit. MCstories.com has a bunch of them every week, with no labels. Often it’s the same authors dumping 4-5 new average length stories in as many days, burying other works. Readonlymind.com doesn’t have any rules or labels either. AO3 is the wild west, as usual.
Frankly, if parsing out these things gets hard for the volunteer team, I wouldn’t be opposed to a donation system that goes to them to compensate for their increased work load and/or support a better detection software. I might even be able to volunteer some myself. AI screening is genuinely a service I value, but I understand its a hassle, and I’m willing to support the effort.
Again, read my post I’ve added only second before yours.
There is no reliable way to detect all AI created prose, especially if it has been edited.
The worst idea is to use AI software to detect AI content…
This. AI detectors are not reliable. I ran a 20+ year old story of mine through some of AI detectors and they all came back with between 15-30% as AI written or generated or whatever.
As for trained readers and reviewers? What are their qualifications?
Also, it sounds as though some people are saying that if they read a story and loved it but later learned there was AI involved, they’d what… un-love it?
The stories on this site and other similar sites are basically porn - granted, some better written than others - not Nobel or Pulitzer level. I’ve seen stories that were banned on this site get remarkable reception on other sites.
Define “reliable”. I get its not perfect, but I don’t need it to be, and it doesn’t need to be AI detecting AI either. False positives will happen and when investigating, you may just have to take the author at their word. I get that.
I’m fine if things slip through the cracks sometimes. That’s understandable. The point is an effort is made.
Also, it sounds as though some people are saying that if they read a story and loved it but later learned there was AI involved, they’d what… un-love it?
Yes, actually. When I want to read a story, I’m enjoying the work of a human being. It’s about what one values in art, and the talent on display from the creator is part of that. The knowledge that the writer didn’t actually write it does reduce my enjoyment.
If it was AI generated, then it wasn’t what I chose to start reading it for. The label is respecting the reader and respecting their time. If you were a vegetarian and went to a restaurant, were served real meat instead of imitation or something, whether you liked it or not wouldn’t change that you were deceived.
The problem is you’re treating writing like every AI apologist does: thinking of it as “content” and not as creative works from a specific person. As long as you “enjoy it”, nothing else matters. That’s not how myself and many other people appreciate art.
Would you feel the same if someone posted a story by a ghost writer but the story was posted as their own work because they told them what to write about ? It’s hypothetical and very unlikely cos 90% would credit the person who wrote . Just as I believe 90% of people will be honest about using AI patterns and tag it as such .
If it’s not perfect, then what would you have us do? Hang the person even though you’re not sure they’ve even committed the crime?
If a story is obviously low-quality AI, we won’t publish it; that’s the core change in the new rules. That also keeps being ignored by the aggressive anti-AI crowd.
If a story looks like it has been written with AI assistance (looks like, i.e, we assume that but we cannot be sure), we’ll ask the author to tag it or to write a disclaimer - and again, yes that disclaimer can also be “no AI has been used in writing this story!”
We are going to trust the author on that. We might argue in case the tell-tale signs are strong, but in the end, we’re not going to accuse the author if we cannot be absolutely sure.
That’s honestly just pathetic.
AI usage is not black and white. It’s not like that using AI means that there is no human creativity involved. You sound like an extremist.
I appreciate your comments & the level of civility. They kinda prove my point though.
I don’t know that I have a chip on a shoulder…if I do, which shoulder is it since I write both ways? –
I acknowledge you called the analogy a metaphor (which would indirectly say the comparison IS the same as this), while using “like” which makes it a simile (by definition) and made it more unrealistic and exaggerated so as to distort it and further dismiss what I said. And that proved your point that that view is entrenched and unable to see the other side.
– Also interesting that you may have said I was heated when in fact it was simply well thought-out and clearly asserting the intolerance that is coming from the other side. (I do agree it is interesting and the discussion at least is discussing.)
Also interesting in the whole discussion… there seems to be a complete ignoring of the idea of tagging the Human-Only authorship. (Yes, the Admins have used AI tags. But, it is something that could be considered.) The argument appears to continue to be that it is believed that anyone using AI must be writing less quality, have less investment, and likely less ability than those that aren’t. And that they can churn out so many stories that somehow the Human-Only authored will be completely lost in the fog. And, I think it is pretty unrealistic to think AI is somehow going to be a bust and disappear…it didn’t happen to calculators, computers (that nobody could ever afford), home video recording devices (again that nobody would ever be able to afford), car phones and later cell phones (that would not be practical), and so on…there’s a theme there. The dot.com bubble did not eliminate dot.com nor did it eliminate all the things that were happening at the time. It was the fact that (like bitcoin), the new fad took off and sound investing became speculative instead. Prices soared and valuation was unrealistic. Startups were all over the place for everything. Some evolved, adapted, survived… we still have Yahoo, but Google came along too. They are still around but competitors diminished as happens in a marketplace. So while the Thanksgiving idea wasn’t liked… this one is simple economics and fact. Unless one comes from the “alternative fact” crowd and chooses to make your own facts, I think that one stands on its own. AI is similar… it is useful, being integrated from the mundane to the critical life-saving arenas. OpenAI, Meta, Microsoft, Google/Alphabet, and lesser known… who will survive in the end? All, some, none of them but something else…doesn’t matter, but AI will be here. It isn’t a fad…it has been with us for decades already but the ubiquitous prevalence and functional utility are increasing. So, discussing genies or bottles or activism or prevention, is probably not a good use of time here. As I have pointed out a few ways and times now, current students in the educational system at all levels are being introduced to AI, taught how to utilize it, and many being encouraged to do so… while asked not to plagiarize or to absent themselves from using their own ideas and utilizing AI to help express them in better or different ways. But continuing to rail against the idea it is out there and here… I guess anyone can choose to do that. After all, Cervantes and Don Quixote was a good read.
**I happened to see this just before hitting the button to post: It seems to me those with this view are doing exactly what they are accusing. Unless someone has actually taken the time to write something worth reading using AI, it seems they have no appreciation or understanding of the fact that it is still a creative work by a person. I have seen myself and at least one other give pretty good descriptions of how NOT easy it is. Not using AI has its own obstacles. I first used AI because of writer’s block, which maybe has never happened to the great Human-Only writers here. But, I had a story I had written and had people asking for continuation. It languished for a couple years while I wrote other things. But, I liked that story and I uploaded the whole thing into AI and asked it to give me logical possible continuations or outcomes. Frankly, none of them were acceptable to me. However, a couple of the ideas it had in getting there did help me to get back to writing it. But, as @SleepyNappyBoy mentioned, it was a constant struggle to keep it from trying to dominate and control the story. I have not found any AI myself that could write this content well, if it even could approach it. It takes a LOT of effort to get it to do so to any degree. The fact that there appears to be ZERO recognition of that by the “I don’t want to even risk it [therefore I won’t go to any restaurants because I am Vegan and only grow and cook my own]” position-takers …. and yet this same group of authors, especially, should be able to write and see positions that vary from their own in order to write well-rounded, well-balanced stories especially if there is any POV or perspectives at all in their work. So… it is very, very interesting indeed… and why it smacks more of elitism, judgment, and intolerance than a fear of their writing and effort being overshadowed and outpaced.
This… this is realistic and appreciated. I think it is accurate. I don’t always enjoy stories that are supposedly by great authors and massive contributors. But, I don’t knock them… I just don’t read them.
I don’t like the “bait and switch” that then say “I’ll post the rest [somewhere else] on my Patreon”. That seems like Grindr and a profile that says go to my onlyfans site [No, of course this isn’t a perfect comparison, but not too imperfect. I appreciate that there is now something upfront…because reading and only being teased, since I am not going to another place and pay, is time I don’t want to use either.]
Actually, I’ve considered this, even before you suggested it. But it wouldn’t change a thing; it would just be a reverse tag added to most new stories, instead of a few being tagged with “contains ai pattern”.
It would mean that people wouldn’t be able to block AI (as there is no negative block filter that blocks everything that doesn’t have a tag).
So, unless the number of purely human-created stories becomes the minority, I’m not considering adding such a tag. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.