Reading the word “ban” so many times in these comments turned my stomach. Classic example of society today, if it offends someone you ban it.
I start reading many stories on this site and move on to another because it is poorly written, the theme isn’t my thing, it involves a woman, it involves feet or farting, or a number of things. Just move on.
As for the story in question, I was intrigued by it. I wanted to see where it went and was curious as to why the author chose that theme. And as I posted in the story comments, I liked the gay undertone. Losing your free will in life sucks, yet we all fantasize about it and write and read stories about it. Is losing your sexual orientation worse than losing your free will?
And regarding gay conversion therapy and its history, well then, let’s just ban all stories on slavery because that has an ugly history and there are men who read this site who are descendants of slaves.
Gay to Straight stories should be allowed here.
If people actually bothered reading the ones rarely posted here instead of immediately proceeding to get offended, they’d notice that the focus is still on the so called “gay” aspect of it. That is, the male character turned straight is still under the control of another man or a group of men, women rarely appear and there is basically zero in depth sexual contact with them, it’s all male focused, it still thrives on so called homoerotic subtext of which there’s loads except it’s often in the vein of “lol no homo,bro”. Itthe relationships and bonding between men and only men.
One could say it’s just a fetish some gay guys have and that being turned straight is stereotypically considered more masculine akin to body hair and muscle (which all also just happen to fall under the tag “masculinization” in this very website). It’s just another side of transformation, another group to be forced into.
Yes, it’s sad that there are real life horror stories about this, but the same could be said about brainwashing overall and toxic abusive relationships where one side holds far more power than the other one - a common theme in many stories here, no to mention slavery, forced drug use/addiction, kidnapping, rape etc. Plenty examples of these can be found in many a story here.
Regardless, this is a fetish fiction site. These are all fictional characters and no one is getting hurt over it. And there’s a reason for that, so we can play out our dirty fantasies that have no place in real life outside of roleplaying due to the potential of actually hurting real people, something that can’t possibly happen when it’s just… words meant to get you hard and cum.
It would be great if this site had a search feature that would EXCLUDE certain tags instead of include them. For example, exclude gay to straight content.
You know that you can exclude a tag from many views already, using the “Tag filter”, don’t you?
On the search itself that’s not possible yet, though. It would be technically doable, I’m just afraid that the dialog will even become more difficult to use than it already is…
As someone who would like more bisexuality in terms of being portrayed and in theme at the very least ‘straightness’ being allowed if only for flavoring, context, and so on in the dish. . . understand frustration and the fear of dilution thatas well as the unintended endorsement of possibly hostile theme. However I hardly say that we haven’t hosted stories that haven’t had remarkably hostile or even violent themes before. Or even downright creepy ones with certain subjects such as reducing a person to a younger thoughtless version of themselves that only wants to have sex just so a person can f*** them
For me I hope that this idea or theme as something to be said or has some entertainment but I imagine that gay to straight is just going to be necessary because of two things. If you know that the character is going to end up gay it doesn’t matter how they start you know how they’re going to be directed that can kind of take a lot of the edge and suspense off.
Two gives us more women to NOT be reduce to negative space or just b****** or perfunctory before they disappear forever. Again wanting more bisexual just for personal preference. But hopefully can add just enough spice to an overall male tf fantasy if they are there to a degree. This cycle/movement might be part of getting that
So far the biggest in-depth theme that I seen about it it’s Wesley bracken’s take and it’s very much about how something essential is being sliced out of these people’s lives and forced to fit into a unit that is often comically unfit.
Think of it like this. it’s a fad or movement that is kind of necessary so that way you can read them and some of the constructs and tropes that have built up around a genre. Much like the deconstructor fleet for superhero comics kind of help them get a bit back in touch with the fact that yes these guys are fighting crime and that means to one degree or another there a commentary on law enforcement and the criminal element that they’re fighting so how do you reintegrate that with the whole capes, special vehicles, and secret HQ. In this case how do you reintegrate the fact that these guys are not just secretly finding out that they’re gay and then embracing and gay identity but how do they then go back to their old lifes and what does that matter to the wider world IF AT ALL? What if they had that Peak but they weren’t able to actualize it because of all the factors that have kept other gay men in the closet or down as it is?
Finally what if we treat gay as the default and straightness as the eyeball corruption that’s invading the neighborhood or the person’s life and how do they deal with getting it out of them?
Compared to how some Wesley Bracken stories have ended up as downright mean spirited in terms of fates of those who are affected I can see at the very least a positive in terms of what influence might arise even if the story, Straight Town itself doesn’t quite do it for me. And it does in the way ALL thrillers and mysteries do being shocking, strange, different, and making identities and appearances whirl.
Finally okay well I obviously don’t want to endorse actual harm in the real world this kind of falls under again “we fiction gets to just be fictional” like with arisia from Green Lantern.*
Not to mention I find that some limits are just remarkably arbitrary in some people’s minds such as when Maisie Williams had a sex scene earlier this year and she’s well in her twenties and the characters he’s portraying is very well-established as adults enough and was the active participant in terms of sex.
If someone finds that they have access to mental conditioning ability and then they try to make themselves straight for whatever reason and that’s part of the story then so be it. I would thin expect hopefully some examination of the limits or loss that this would entail.
In terms of would it fit with the archive? Obviously that’s up to the boss. But in terms of someone who frequents the archive I would not be put off if we had straight content or if that was a theme here.
TL;DR, so I can understand a fear of straightening taking over or creating a more hostile environment. But if I may how are we going to handle cross-dressing or transsexual elements? Characters with major drag personas?
I mean this is an archived that has straight up scat at points.
It is disgusting and offensive and could be very bad if practice without thought in the real world. But that’s kind of a standard disclaimer for everything here not least of which involving almost any form of mind control, drug abuse, which is frankly most analogous to sexual assault because it involves the abridgement or removal of the consent of the target. And that’s ignoring the fact of how rarely a character on the site practices safer sex. Or the ease mechanics in terms of anal intercourse
*The idea of the young precocious girl who wants that hot older guy, Hal Jordan. he reasonably shuts her down and in response she forces herself to grow up in order so that she can actually end up with him. that’s kind of interesting especially when you add in the Sci-Fi element of she actually used a clarktech ring in order to do it and the effect that had on her actual brain and her actual maturity. Ya know like can and hopefulyl will happen to some degree with an AP story.
Gay To Straight shouldn’t be allowed here tbh
Why do you think that?
They should be allowed. Pretty much everything on this site is “triggering” to someone, tbh. And I am not just saying that to be edgy or contrarian. I was a victim of sexual assault as a teen. I was also harassed and bullied for being bisexual. If you are going to start banning on the basis of sensitivities to a subject this site would have no content.
I am a strait man who started reading some of this and had to admit I was getting turned on, I am not sure I am the right person to comment on this being strait but I would think stories where strait men are turned by gay men would be much hotter and more well read
@Hagnasty But it isnt just any trigger.
I get and somewhat agrre that if we were to take down EVERYThing that isna trigger to someone, we wouldnt have much left. But this is a trigger that affects a lot of our community.
As a gay man who is slowly discovering a maybe bisexual side to him, the idea of a MC story where the protagonist is being bounced back from gay to straight and back to gay by rival hypnotists arouses me a lot, but for a lot of gay men who had to go through gay “conversion therapy” this would be very hard to bear.
The story I just mentioned could fit in Mcstories perfectly already. But perhaps it would be wise to have a few websites like this one to keep as safeplaces. You can always go to mcstories for bisexual stories. Or straight ones.
Yes. Yes, it is. You don’t think the sexulization of rape wouldn’t be hard for a rape or sexual assault victim to bear? Do you know what it’s like to have someone violate you? Because I do, but that doesn’t mean people shouldn’t be able to write about it. Hell, I do. Again, this website is filled with stories that would be seen as insensitive and offensive to the general population. If a story isn’t for you just move on to something else. You aren’t going to die from knowing these stories exist.
I dislike this kind of narrative for 2 reason:
- it does nothing for me sexually
- it reinforces a narrative of gay conversion therapy, a form of torture that we, in the US, are currently working to ban. It’s too political, and too close to the struggles of this community. I don’t think it belongs here.
I’m a very gay bro and I find the gay-to-straight stories on here amongst the hottest, likely just because of the taboo.
How do Fantasy stories about taboo or controversial topics like any form of sexual orientation alteration reinforce anything? Who here is advocating for gay conversion therapy? We are a bunch of horny people on the internet looking at fetish fuel. You are being dramatic about the scale of some stories that some find in bad taste.
Ok and Furry stories do nothing for me. What’s your point? Just because something doesn’t make your penis jiggle isn’t a reason to remove it.
Indeed and like in the b/d & s/m world, what makes one person hot can be a total turnoff to another. So what to do? The bottom line is to respect each other’s kinks, knowing full well that what turns you on might repulse someone else, and what turns them on might send you running. Accept it, and accept people who are different from you.
Exactly, my kink is twinks in diapers. A kink that within the diaper/little/etc community is already considered niche because ABDL leans heavily heterosexual. Hell, on sites like GSS at least, as far as diaper stuff goes the subjects are bears and shit, which I am not really into. So I am a minority within a minority. Really we just need to accept that not all kinks will sit well with us, and just ignore those that don’t.
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Wait, hold on a moment, let us not cause this to flame back up into a discussion like it did a year ago.
well said, i read summaries and if not for me, i go onto another story, we all have our kinks. mine are domination, skinheads rubber - i take it not everyone is into it, not that much into twinks - and the gay to straight does turn me on
I’m openly GAY and i’m one of the few turned on by gay2str8 themes,especially in the third person and the central characters gay friends turning str8. Or the corruption of straight friends,or gay lovers into more aggressive,homophobic bullies,something orrinotica forayed into.
I kinda find homophobic language and actions hot,especially when in the confines of (gay) sex. so i’m all for fiction of gays servicing bullying straight guys,straight guys who think theres nothing perverse in using a gay cum dump as 'it’s not gay if you’re doing the fucking/taking control. YES,this clearly falls more into the straight to gay category,rather than the other way round.
As for pure gay to straight changes,eventually featuring straight sex,this does not bother me. Perhaps if it was a simple straight sex story then i’m likely not gonna read that.
So,taboo or not. This is my own feelings.