Seriously @M_Baytor?! You’re being ridiculous now. Get over it. He said what he’s going to do, if you’re not happy, leave.
Oops. I wasn’t even aware of that rule, which is a default setting of the forum software. It’s not intended and doesn’t help. I’ll turn that off right away. Thanks for pointing this out!
I agree. M_Baytor’s point isn’t really on point or helping. It fact it could derail the conversation.
Which really is over in so far as the rules of the site, though really not as it pertains to the nature of it.
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I just wanted to chime in and say how much I admire your patience, Martin. Because if I had to field all the obnoxious, entitled responses you’ve been getting…
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No, I do not plan on suing you. All I want is to know if you’re a business or not. If you’re not a business, fine. But please don’t represent yourself as such. If you are a business, please take a look at other business models and work on your customer service.
@JDz0J
You’re right. Nothing changes and this site still harbors so much discrimination and hypocrisy. I was trying to find somewhere to go, but you’re correct. This site doesn’t make me happy, so I should leave.
@Heru_Kane
If it’s over, why provoke me?
@Hypnothrill
Please make a Martin appreciation thread if you want to suck up.
@Heru_Kane. The “nature of it” and all other discussion has been out to rest. You’re getting your personalized Censorship settings soon, so you can box yourself into a happy gay only bubble and leave everyone else alone xD
You’re lucky Martin is a cool dude. I’d have written a policy stating anyone whining, bitching, or complaining will be banned on an IP address level.
I think you have a lot of misunderstandings about how things work already and how they’ll work in the future, cuz a lot of the points you’re making just don’t make sense to me. I’m not saying that as any kind of attack or anything, I just mean that your points don’t match the reality of the site.
Martin and his staff (for want of a better term) already read every story posted to the site. That’s why writers have to wait before their story shows up in the feed. As part of that process, I would assume that for any story which is perhaps a bit questionable, the staff member would look at previous stories from the same author and see if there are any clear issues emerging. If there aren’t, then the story would presumably be approved; if there are, the staff would take whatever actions they feel appropriate.
There’s no favoritism or whatever, there’s looking at a given author’s established record. If they don’t have one, then there would obviously be a higher level of scrutiny to their stories. That’s just a natural function of how sites like this (or wikis or any other community-content-driven sites) work. Those who develop a reputation as trusted usually get less scrutiny for their own work and a select few are given the ability to make decisions about others’ work. For that matter, it’s the way virtually every workplace in the world works and, for that matter, they way every friendship works. Unknowns are not trusted; knowns are, because they’ve demonstrated that you can trust them.
As far as how controversial stories are handled, I think his proposed method is almost ideal: filter based on how a story is tagged. Let people update tags as they feel appropriate. If a story contains gay-to-straight content and isn’t tagged as such, anyone can change the tags to include the fact that this is a gay-to-straight story. (That’s actually the part I consider not ideal, cuz there are some really–let’s go with “imaginative”— taggers out there, but that’s a different topic.) From that point forward, it will be filtered for everyone who doesn’t want to see gay-to-straight content (or whatever else).
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You’re implying that I’m doing a bad job in “customer service”. Well, that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. I don’t think many other people agree with you, though, and if I may say so, in my point of view you’re not doing a great job in being a “customer” either, because you really do a bad job communicating what your actual issue is.
Anyway, I can’t even imagine where you get the idea from, that this site is a business. It can hardly get any more “hobbyistic” than this. Especially if you consider the vast amount of advertisement on the site and the extremely hard and pricey pay-walls all-around.
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No, this isn’t a business. This is a guy running a website with the help of other people he trusts. Period, end of story.
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Considering this is GAY Spiral Stories I’ll keep my happy gay bubble here. Thank you very much.
Also your definition of whining and mine are far far different. I’m also glad your not in charge. Especially considering the way you respond to comments.
Please, don’t fight among each other. I understand and respect both of your point of views, there is no right or wrong about that, that’s why I try to accommodate both sides.
I perfectly understand why Heru has an issue with gay-to-straight, and as I’ve written at the beginning of this thread, I was really trying to figure out my own conflicted feelings about this.
There is just not THE ONE correct view on the world. Thank god there isn’t. That’s the fun of it all!
@Corin, I guess I’m just not tolerant if bitching and moaning. I work in customer service, and have on many occasions told bitchy customers who think they’re going to nag me into what they want, to go someplace else. It’s actually gotten me more repeat customers who are easy to work with, and elss assholes who think they’re right.
So when it comes to public forums, I take the same approach. Shut up and take what the site gives you, or go away. And if you don’t go away, we’ll make you go away xD when you come back (most of the time they do), you’ll have learned to keep your mouth shut and take what the site gives you, and be happy. Or else. =P
So. I am not gay, should I leave ? (I am not straight either. )
No, definitely not. I don’t want to put words in Heru_Kane’s mouth here, but I think all he was implying was that he would want this site to focus on same-sex encounters where the same-sex part is the end goal. I don’t believe it was his intent to make anyone feel unwelcome or excluded; he just felt that some stories were inappropriate.
In the end, this has been a difficult topic, and a lot of people’s tempers got inflamed. Understandably so. A decision has now been made, and it’s been talked out. I think it’s probably best if we just all take a breather at this point (or maybe even close the topic).
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With all due respect, I am not sure how me saying that this site should stay on gay stories has any connection with the people who visit or participate with the site. Gay, straight, male, female, or any other way you might identity - all are welcome here.
Being welcome here as a person has no bearing on the sorts of stories that should be here.
As well the comment about the gay bubble was in reference to a comment above about the focus of this place. I was simply stating that I was happy and I wasn’t planning on leaving. That’s it.
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genunie question: what about Gay/Straight into Bi? and Bi into Gay? as a Bi man I want to know about this one
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That’s all fine. Just make sure that your stories are focused around gay sex - almost all readers here are gay men and sex with women is a bit of a turn-off for most of us.
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I actually have a bisexual story in the works myself, though being a so-called “gold star gay” and not having the first clue about some things, the parts involving women will necessarily be brief and fairly simplistic. (Edit: it occurs to me now that I’ve posted that it doesn’t include whatever-to-bi, though. Sorry, just ignore me, I’m rambling. 
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@Corin, so a Gay to Straight themed story that features no explicit description of sex is also allowed. As long as it features Gays and Mind control. And no hetero-sex scene?
No, I don’t mind straight or lesbian sex. It just shouldn’t be a major part of the story. As a side story, as some background, no problem.
It’s also in the interest of the author himself. A long straight / lesbian sex scene will most likely turn away most readers.
As a matter of fact, straight sex is part of many stories on GSS, usually before some straight-to-gay corruption 
Also, one could imagine a man in a girls body feeling strange and ‘missing’ certain parts… something like that could be quite hot, I imagine. As a matter of fact, I think I’ve read such a story somewhere. There are many things that could be interesting, it’s just up to the author to make it interesting for his gay audience.
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